I saw Charlie Cox do a solo Dragon Con panel right around the time that season 1 of Daredevil came out, and he was charming, self-effacing, and genial. Basically, stuff that Daredevil only occasionally allowed him to be and that She-Hulk decided to build his character around. He can be an incredibly winning actor when he isn't forced to brood all the time, and even as someone who enjoyed the Netflix show, I'm now far more excited for Born Again than I thought possible (even if it isn't as lighthearted as She-Hulk, which is all but a certainty).
I also liked how they leaned into the fact that She-Hulk and Daredevil are very different shows. The walk of shame was magnificent, but they way they teed up another hallway fight before having She-Hulk pull the rug out from under the viewers by smashing the henchgoons might have been my favorite gag. Not quite as funny as the elevator fight fakeout in Endgame, but still an excellent bit.
I've been enjoying this show, but man are the courtroom scenes bad. Asking questions and presenting evidence while seated and addressing the judge? “He’s lying. Don’t ask me how I know, I just know.” Really? REALLY?
When the writers talked about not being skilled at writing courtroom scenes, I never expected that they've apparently never even watched a legal show.
I don't have much to say about this particular episode (other than the chemistry between Daredevil and She-Hulk was pretty great and its great to have Charlie Cox back), but have really been enjoying this show (best MCU show of year IMO), appreciate the relatively low, sitcom-like stakes, find it genuinely funny at least a couple times an episode (Daredevil's walk of shame!), and hope it continues for multiple seasons!
It fits a great niche in the MCU and while its true we don't get much time with the supporting cast, I feel like with more seasons it can become a pretty solid ensemble show too (after all, many sitcom ensembles don't feel fully formed until second season).
I don't know if I'd quite agree with your conclusion that "the Netflix shows are clearly not going to be treated as outright canon in the way the rest of the MCU is." I think that's true enough with regards to this specific show, and I think they threaded the needle well with Daredevil in his appearance today in the ways you describe. (For instance, I loved recognizing the musical sting of his Netflix theme at one point, but that detail was absolutely not going to confuse anyone who was meeting him for the first time.) But we don't have any casting details for Daredevil: Born Again yet beyond Matt and Kingpin, right? I could easily imagine an approach where his history of character relations and arcs are flattened for a guest appearance on She-Hulk, but still very much relevant when he's anchoring his own show again.
To draw a parallel case from the movies, it seems to me like when Dr. Strange pops up in Thor: Ragnarok with no Wong or any of the rest of his usual supporting cast, and no real indication of what's going on in his life at that point. Thor viewers who haven't seen his movies won't be too lost, Strange fans who skip Ragnarok won't miss out on any crucial developments involving him, and the franchise machine chugs merrily along with everything still in the same broad continuity.
I work in insurance. I doubt anyone except maybe Tony Stark would have insurance. The premiums would be either too much for the average superhero to afford or insurance companies would exclude property damage and bodily injury caused by a superhero.
Now that we're almost at the end of a season I have such mixed feelings about this show. I don't mean to insult and I have no issue with folks who genuinely enjoy this series but for some reason for me this has been the first ever MCU thing that I sometimes feel genuinely embarrassed to be watching somehow. I very seldom have such feelings about any media I consume. I watch all kinds of crap, children's shows etc. and I don't believe in such a thing as a "guilty pleasure" in television but for some reason there are some times when I"m watching "She-Hulk" and I just feel silly or dumb or something for doing so. Some of the humor is just so goofy and corny to me. And then, bizarrely, it abruptly shifts to this other dark tone when it deals with misogyny etc. It's like half "Single female lawyer havin lots of sex" and half "Don't Worry Darling" or something. I continue to watch because I'll watch Maslany in anything and the show has some other redeeming facets but this one has me right on the brink of not continuing to watch every single MCU thing that comes out. (Technically I already skipped the Eternals like most people did)
I saw Charlie Cox do a solo Dragon Con panel right around the time that season 1 of Daredevil came out, and he was charming, self-effacing, and genial. Basically, stuff that Daredevil only occasionally allowed him to be and that She-Hulk decided to build his character around. He can be an incredibly winning actor when he isn't forced to brood all the time, and even as someone who enjoyed the Netflix show, I'm now far more excited for Born Again than I thought possible (even if it isn't as lighthearted as She-Hulk, which is all but a certainty).
I also liked how they leaned into the fact that She-Hulk and Daredevil are very different shows. The walk of shame was magnificent, but they way they teed up another hallway fight before having She-Hulk pull the rug out from under the viewers by smashing the henchgoons might have been my favorite gag. Not quite as funny as the elevator fight fakeout in Endgame, but still an excellent bit.
I've been enjoying this show, but man are the courtroom scenes bad. Asking questions and presenting evidence while seated and addressing the judge? “He’s lying. Don’t ask me how I know, I just know.” Really? REALLY?
When the writers talked about not being skilled at writing courtroom scenes, I never expected that they've apparently never even watched a legal show.
Daredevil, though!
I don't have much to say about this particular episode (other than the chemistry between Daredevil and She-Hulk was pretty great and its great to have Charlie Cox back), but have really been enjoying this show (best MCU show of year IMO), appreciate the relatively low, sitcom-like stakes, find it genuinely funny at least a couple times an episode (Daredevil's walk of shame!), and hope it continues for multiple seasons!
It fits a great niche in the MCU and while its true we don't get much time with the supporting cast, I feel like with more seasons it can become a pretty solid ensemble show too (after all, many sitcom ensembles don't feel fully formed until second season).
They just repealed the Sokovia Accords in a side mention in a product liability lawsuit?
Jen didn't check to make sure he followed manufacturer instructions? Is Jen... a bad lawyer?
The Jen-Matt dynamic is fun but I don't see how it could ever translate to Daredevil's own show. It's so dour and dark.
I feel like Jen and Jessica Jones would be great friends, however.
I don't know if I'd quite agree with your conclusion that "the Netflix shows are clearly not going to be treated as outright canon in the way the rest of the MCU is." I think that's true enough with regards to this specific show, and I think they threaded the needle well with Daredevil in his appearance today in the ways you describe. (For instance, I loved recognizing the musical sting of his Netflix theme at one point, but that detail was absolutely not going to confuse anyone who was meeting him for the first time.) But we don't have any casting details for Daredevil: Born Again yet beyond Matt and Kingpin, right? I could easily imagine an approach where his history of character relations and arcs are flattened for a guest appearance on She-Hulk, but still very much relevant when he's anchoring his own show again.
To draw a parallel case from the movies, it seems to me like when Dr. Strange pops up in Thor: Ragnarok with no Wong or any of the rest of his usual supporting cast, and no real indication of what's going on in his life at that point. Thor viewers who haven't seen his movies won't be too lost, Strange fans who skip Ragnarok won't miss out on any crucial developments involving him, and the franchise machine chugs merrily along with everything still in the same broad continuity.
I haven’t seen Daredevil but immediately liked the character. His chemistry with She Hulk was off the charts wonderful!
I work in insurance. I doubt anyone except maybe Tony Stark would have insurance. The premiums would be either too much for the average superhero to afford or insurance companies would exclude property damage and bodily injury caused by a superhero.
Now that we're almost at the end of a season I have such mixed feelings about this show. I don't mean to insult and I have no issue with folks who genuinely enjoy this series but for some reason for me this has been the first ever MCU thing that I sometimes feel genuinely embarrassed to be watching somehow. I very seldom have such feelings about any media I consume. I watch all kinds of crap, children's shows etc. and I don't believe in such a thing as a "guilty pleasure" in television but for some reason there are some times when I"m watching "She-Hulk" and I just feel silly or dumb or something for doing so. Some of the humor is just so goofy and corny to me. And then, bizarrely, it abruptly shifts to this other dark tone when it deals with misogyny etc. It's like half "Single female lawyer havin lots of sex" and half "Don't Worry Darling" or something. I continue to watch because I'll watch Maslany in anything and the show has some other redeeming facets but this one has me right on the brink of not continuing to watch every single MCU thing that comes out. (Technically I already skipped the Eternals like most people did)
Is it just me, or has Charlie Cox changed his voice for this iteration of Daredevil? That makes me think they may be trying to differentiate the two.